
Are you a keep-a-notebook-full-of-notes guy? Or are you a things-float-into-your-head guy? Then, years later, we really needed material and I said let’s have another look at it and it turned out to be a really good idea. He pitched that to us when we’d been together a couple of years and we tried it and worked it up in a couple of keys and tried it with different arrangements, and it was just really hard and we never went back to it. Pete did the same thing with Just Like You. I still believe in this particular song so I keep pitching it to them. And if you can’t find the reason and you still believe in it - I go by instinct. A lot of times, there is a reason, so you ask yourself what it is. If you’re an artist, you have to learn when people say no to just let it roll off. RB: So they all look at you with straight faces and say, “Let’s go to lunch” or something? I’m still trying to pitch this same song over and over to them. Was there ever a song that you brought to the band that just crashed and burned? There are so many great songs that you all did, like Sweetest Song I Sing, Walk the Way the Wind Blows, Late in the Day, Untold Stories. RB: Hot Rize is a natural place for your material. Meanwhile, my friend Nugget, (Mike Kemnitzer, who makes mandolins) had an adopted his wife’s son – and so I thought of him and I liked Shane and so I kind of made something up out of that. So Shane becomes the father to the kid and after the whole plot goes through and credits are rolling, he’s back with the family and he has the girl and everything is groovy. The protagonist is this drifter guy who hires on with a family on a little farm and he helps them make it through the winter but the father figure has deserted them. One of my favorite movies growing up was called Shane, a western. They were a little bit reluctant to try it right away but they kind of liked it so we did it. TO: We had some original songs for our first Hot Rize record and right before we went into the studio I came up with this one. RB: The first of Tim O’Brien song I became aware of, which is one of your greats, is Nellie Kane. It encourages you to keep doing it again. We wrote songs and then I found that people liked them so we recorded them. So Nick and I and Pete all put our pens to paper separately and as collaborators. So that was the idea and Pete Wernick had done it and I figured maybe I could too. And then when Hot Rize started, everybody said it’s a good value if you write your own songs. I’d already been dabbling in it and never thought much about it. RB: At what point did you go from learning 200-plus songs to songwriting? So I think on my own, starting a couple of years before that, I was like, yeah, if could get $45 a week or something I could not have to ask my parents for money and I could keep playing music and I might get better at it.

I remember when Hot Rize started, $100 would keep us going – $100 a week, per member. I probably said if I could make $25 I could live for the week. That’s her quote but I probably said something pretty much to that effect. I know 200 songs now and I figure if I keep learning more, I should be all right.” Is that true? RB: According to lore, you wrote a note to your mom when you dropped out of college and it said something like: “I’m heading west.

The interview has been lightly edited for clarity. It was too good to leave sitting on my computer and the current pandemic allowed me some unexpected time to transcribe it. Tim O’Brien is a great hero of mine, and a friend, and he imparted some wonderful stories and wisdom in our conversation. It was meant to be the first episode of a new radio show focused on the craft of songwriting that never panned out. “We know that some discussions need more than 280 characters, and bringing people closer to the ideas, content, and creators they know and love is core to Twitter no matter where the conversations take place,” Twitter said in a blog post announcing the test feature.This interview was conducted in February 2018. also listen to podcasts monthly, has not disclosed when it will roll out the podcast integration to all users. The company, which said 45 percent of its users in the U.S.

Users can also submit “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” reactions to podcasts to further customize their recommendations.Īs of the test launch, Twitter appears to be following a Pandora-esque model for podcasts rather than trying to compete with Spotify and Apple Podcasts.

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